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:: How best to connect w/ the interest on the C19 projects on en:wp and wd?  I like the idea of engaging some Miraheze community folk (also even! fandom folk for gnomistry)  [[User:Sj|Sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 17:21, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:: How best to connect w/ the interest on the C19 projects on en:wp and wd?  I like the idea of engaging some Miraheze community folk (also even! fandom folk for gnomistry)  [[User:Sj|Sj]] ([[User talk:Sj|talk]]) 17:21, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::: [[User:Sj]]!  I stopped editing over here when it seemed things completely died out.  I thought of copyng my content over to the '''[https://coronawiki.five-stitches.net/mediawiki/index.php/Hauptseite Helpful Engineers COVID-19 wiki]''' .  I'm still thinking about that, but at this point, I'm not sure how productive that would be.  [[User:Harej]] has a well-managed wiki over here (with VisualEditor and all the toys) whereas it looks like the Helpful Engineers are having problems dealing with their spam problem.  It'd be awesome to merge the two wikis, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.  Does the world need a COVID19 wiki (besides Wikipedia)? -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 22:26, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::: [[User:Sj]]!  I stopped editing over here when it seemed things completely died out.  I thought of copyng my content over to the '''[https://coronawiki.five-stitches.net/mediawiki/index.php/Hauptseite Helpful Engineers COVID-19 wiki]''' .  I'm still thinking about that, but at this point, I'm not sure how productive that would be.  [[User:Harej]] has a well-managed wiki over here (with VisualEditor and all the toys) whereas it looks like the Helpful Engineers are having problems dealing with their spam problem.  It'd be awesome to merge the two wikis, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.  Does the world need a COVID19 wiki (besides Wikipedia)? -- [[User:RobLa|RobLa]] ([[User talk:RobLa|talk]]) 22:26, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
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Hi [[User:RobLa|RobLa]]~!  I think we absolutely need something for '''extended time-series data'''.  My current thinking:
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* Push Wikidata to include all time series data that is ever used to update a Wikipedia template about COVID.  See how far we can get.  (all case counts, all hospital utilization and PPE availability and test availability counts, by county + state + country).  Tiago on wikidata thinks this seems reasonable. 
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* Start with these being the simplest time series (multiple properties with their own {as-of time, source}) on the entity for the Wikipedia page about "2020 Coronavirus pandemic in X".
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* Try to refactor a few wikipedia articles to generate their tables directly from this WD data. (with appropriate "edit" links ...
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* When this hits a snag, put the above data into [this c19relay].
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* Help this wiki merge with Helpful Engineers and [https://virus-taxonomy.wiki.opencura.com/ Virus-taxonomy].
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* At some point, as we approach 100K time-stamped, sourced data points: come up with a proposal for how to capture this more elegantly in WD.  (letting a value be a time-series)
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[[user:Harej|Harej]], [[user:Doc James]], what do you think?

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Spot for discussion of the main page

We will need to figure out a high level structure. Maybe one for regions of the world. And another for aspects of the disease? Doc James (talk) 05:08, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Doc_James - I think a good starting point might be to do a breakdown by region, and maybe (in an effort not to boil the ocean) we start with North America, and maybe even focus on the U.S. and Canada, since that's what I'm guessing the editors of the covid19relay wiki know the best. We might be able to enlist some help from the Miraheze commmunity, since they're also know how to manage MediaWiki, and they have an active community on both IRC and on Discord (and it would be a great place to recruit western European editors). -- RobLa (talk) 20:13, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
How best to connect w/ the interest on the C19 projects on en:wp and wd? I like the idea of engaging some Miraheze community folk (also even! fandom folk for gnomistry) Sj (talk) 17:21, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
User:Sj! I stopped editing over here when it seemed things completely died out. I thought of copyng my content over to the Helpful Engineers COVID-19 wiki . I'm still thinking about that, but at this point, I'm not sure how productive that would be. User:Harej has a well-managed wiki over here (with VisualEditor and all the toys) whereas it looks like the Helpful Engineers are having problems dealing with their spam problem. It'd be awesome to merge the two wikis, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Does the world need a COVID19 wiki (besides Wikipedia)? -- RobLa (talk) 22:26, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi RobLa~! I think we absolutely need something for extended time-series data. My current thinking:

  • Push Wikidata to include all time series data that is ever used to update a Wikipedia template about COVID. See how far we can get. (all case counts, all hospital utilization and PPE availability and test availability counts, by county + state + country). Tiago on wikidata thinks this seems reasonable.
  • Start with these being the simplest time series (multiple properties with their own {as-of time, source}) on the entity for the Wikipedia page about "2020 Coronavirus pandemic in X".
  • Try to refactor a few wikipedia articles to generate their tables directly from this WD data. (with appropriate "edit" links ...
  • When this hits a snag, put the above data into [this c19relay].
  • Help this wiki merge with Helpful Engineers and Virus-taxonomy.
  • At some point, as we approach 100K time-stamped, sourced data points: come up with a proposal for how to capture this more elegantly in WD. (letting a value be a time-series)

Harej, user:Doc James, what do you think?