Talk:Covid19Relay

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We will need to figure out a high level structure. Maybe one for regions of the world. And another for aspects of the disease? Doc James (talk) 05:08, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Doc_James - I think a good starting point might be to do a breakdown by region, and maybe (in an effort not to boil the ocean) we start with North America, and maybe even focus on the U.S. and Canada, since that's what I'm guessing the editors of the covid19relay wiki know the best. We might be able to enlist some help from the Miraheze commmunity, since they're also know how to manage MediaWiki, and they have an active community on both IRC and on Discord (and it would be a great place to recruit western European editors). -- RobLa (talk) 20:13, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
How best to connect w/ the interest on the C19 projects on en:wp and wd? I like the idea of engaging some Miraheze community folk (also even! fandom folk for gnomistry) Sj (talk) 17:21, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
User:Sj! I stopped editing over here when it seemed things completely died out. I thought of copyng my content over to the Helpful Engineers COVID-19 wiki . I'm still thinking about that, but at this point, I'm not sure how productive that would be. User:Harej has a well-managed wiki over here (with VisualEditor and all the toys) whereas it looks like the Helpful Engineers are having problems dealing with their spam problem. It'd be awesome to merge the two wikis, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Does the world need a COVID19 wiki (besides Wikipedia)? -- RobLa (talk) 22:26, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi RobLa~! I think we absolutely need something for extended time-series data. My current thinking:

  1. Push Wikidata to include all time series data that is ever used to update a Wikipedia template about COVID. See how far we can get. (all case counts, all hospital utilization and PPE availability and test availability counts, by county + state + country). Tiago on wikidata thinks this seems reasonable.
    • Start with these being the simplest time series (multiple properties with their own {as-of time, source}) on the entity for the Wikipedia page about "2020 Coronavirus pandemic in X".
    • Try to refactor a few wikipedia articles to generate their tables directly from this WD data. (with appropriate "edit" links ...
    • When this hits a snag, put the above data into [this c19relay].
  2. Use this as a place to align different efforts w/o fighting over wiki policies.
    • Store public data files (csv, json, PDF) that we're working with/from. Not all have CC-0 (c) clearance; we don't have time to fight over that just now.
    • Merge efforts at Helpful Engineers and Virus-taxonomy.
  3. Propose ways to make WD more useful for data like this
    • At some point, as we approach 100K time-stamped, sourced data points: come up with a proposal for how to capture this more elegantly in WD. (letting a value be a time-series)

Harej, user:Doc James, what do you think?

Hello User:Sj and User:RobLa. First of all: thank you for your participation on this wiki so far. Your activity is how I know this wiki matters. To give you all an update, I secured $7,300 in funding from the Credibility Coalition to support moving this wiki to Kubernetes, allowing it to scale more readily. This is because I plan on using the wiki to host the COVID-19 Open Research Data Challenge dataset. My goal is to create a user-annotatable database of COVID-19 research, hooking into the ontology of Wikidata. This funding makes that and more possible.
This, of course, does not rule out other use cases. I want this software to support any and all projects you can think of. To that end I support Sj's ideas around using this wiki to host content above and beyond the Wikimedia wikis. I would add that rather than try to push Wikidata as far as we can, we could use this wiki as a staging area for later contribution to Wikidata, or Wikidata could link out to this wiki and the two would work together.
RobLa, feel free to continue contributing here, or on the Helpful Engineers Wiki, as you see fit. For what it's worth, I see Covid19Relay as a connector between resources, including other wikis, and not necessarily an ultimate destination onto itself. Harej (talk) 23:39, 29 April 2020 (UTC)